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Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:37 am
by Restless
Local Midlands DJ's like Luke, Mongoose, MRB, Ratty (to an extent), Fallout and Tango just kind of disappeared altogether after '94.

Then there was DJ's like Rap, Jack Frost, Etc that although were massive in the Jungle scene, they kind of fizzled out, IMO when it came to bookings, in the D&B scene.

Who, iyo, just kind of disappeared/fell off the map after the mid 90's who were big nationally and locally from the early 90's?

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:13 am
by dj jedi
I think it would be fair to put Ellis Dee in that category. Without doubt the biggest (and my favourite) hardcore DJ of 92 and 93, but then just couldn't really keep up technically or musically after that. I know he had his Collusion label with Swan-e but I don't think anybody would say it was a classic label, or that he was a seminal Drum & Bass DJ or producer compared to people like Bukem, Hype, Nicky Blackmarket, Goldie etc. A bit of an outcast considering how massive he was a few years earlier.

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:27 am
by Restless
Great shout.

I've always thought that he was an awful DJ, but he was certainly a top-tier name.

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:24 pm
by dj_yt
Maybe a little harsh to say he fell off the map, but Easygroove certainly remained a more underground name and taste. Definitely one of my favourite DJs from back in the day! I really like the chaotic and surprising nature of his sets. They have a wonderful unpredictable feel to them, without sounding a mess. Also respect the way he didn't go balls deep into slightly boring/serious jungle like most of the jocks.

Is he doing ok now? I know he was in hospital a little while ago.

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:33 pm
by eazyflow
dj jedi wrote:I think it would be fair to put Ellis Dee in that category. Without doubt the biggest (and my favourite) hardcore DJ of 92 and 93, but then just couldn't really keep up technically or musically after that. I know he had his Collusion label with Swan-e but I don't think anybody would say it was a classic label, or that he was a seminal Drum & Bass DJ or producer compared to people like Bukem, Hype, Nicky Blackmarket, Goldie etc. A bit of an outcast considering how massive he was a few years earlier.
Ellis did keep up musically, and appeared at tons of events until around '97:

Big Up Yer Chest
One For The Ladies
Loving You
Lock Down
The Real Killer
97 Style

Were all huge, and still highly regarded...

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:40 pm
by dj jedi
Sure he was around those years, but not regarded as one of the elite DJs any more. I doubt anybody would put him in their top 5 94-97 jungle/D&B DJs, where as pretty much everybody would have him in their 91-93 top 5. So I agree he didn't vanish completely, but when you look at lists like this of the most highly regarded DJs, labels, tracks etc from the jungle era, I've never seen his name on one of them.

http://www.timeout.com/london/music/the ... -ever-made

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:55 pm
by Restless
dj jedi wrote:Sure he was around those years, but not regarded as one of the elite DJs any more. I doubt anybody would put him in their top 5 94-97 jungle/D&B DJs, where as pretty much everybody would have him in their 91-93 top 5. So I agree he didn't vanish completely, but when you look at lists like this of the most highly regarded DJs, labels, tracks etc from the jungle era, I've never seen his name on one of them.

http://www.timeout.com/london/music/the ... -ever-made
Agreed.

I can think of 10-15 names straight off the bat that I'd choose over Ellis from that era.

Also - and these are two of them - Gachet & Ron: They also fell off when Jungle morphed into D&B.

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:37 pm
by eazyflow
dj jedi wrote:Sure he was around those years, but not regarded as one of the elite DJs any more. I doubt anybody would put him in their top 5 94-97 jungle/D&B DJs, where as pretty much everybody would have him in their 91-93 top 5. So I agree he didn't vanish completely, but when you look at lists like this of the most highly regarded DJs, labels, tracks etc from the jungle era, I've never seen his name on one of them.

http://www.timeout.com/london/music/the ... -ever-made
That isn't the same as "falling off completely" though is it?

I'm probably being a pedant here (Whodafunkit on on oldskool forum!?) but Ellis was still putting out big tunes and playing on the regs at the big raves (Skelter/Dreamscape etc...). Whether people would regard him as being in the top tier is another matter, but I wouldn't say he actaully fell off into total irrelevance until around '99...

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:16 pm
by Thrash
dj_gyr8

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:15 pm
by eazyflow
Thrash wrote:dj_gyr8
:lol:

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:04 am
by dj_gyr8
Hi,

Surely this is an easy question to answer...

Simply look at the 1992 flyers, then those from 1993 - which ever DJ's fail to appear, obviously 'fell off the map'

Note: "DJ GYR8" never existed before 1994, that name was only ever used for Jungle...

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:02 pm
by lentrix
lol (thankfully) - most of the 'happy hardcore' dj's ....

To survive Billy D Bunter had to totally reinvent himself - most others are gone....

Most of the DJ's that disappr do so because they fail to adapt to the music or don't like the new direction and get into another genre

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:54 pm
by dj_yt
Most of the happy hardcore DJs are still going strong from what I can see? It surprises me after 20 years how many of them I can still go and see playing on a regular basis.

Vibes, Dougal, Brisk, Sy, Ramos, Jimmy J, Luna-C and Slipmatt are all still playing out. True they might not be playing 100% happy hardcore, but all of those guys were DJs long before the happy scene...

Seduction is about the only big name exception that I can think of.

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:53 pm
by djdeeenbee
In case anyone didn't know, DJ Ham switched sides a few years ago from Hardcore to D&B and now produces for Ram under the name Hamilton.

Re: Which DJ's just fell off the map completely?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:59 pm
by DJ Chance
I didnt know that about Ham however I am well out of tocuh with DnB these days.

Here is an interview from a while back with him
http://www.kmag.co.uk/editorial/feature ... rview.html