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First "Jungle" tune debate

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby MikeW » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:48 pm

If Radio Babylon is jungle, so is this (1989):



That good enough for you Mr Saunders ;)

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First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby 23eHeure » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:54 pm

Well I haven't got to my lock up yet to pull my decks and all my crates of records.
But I HAVE found a box of tapes of london pirate shows up in the attic.

Listened to two Kool FM sets from late 92, and I'm surprised to say about 75% of the tunes would definitely be classed as jungle.
I say surprised, cos my memory told me even Kool was mostly hardcore until 93.

So anyway, my point is jungle was already established as a sound of it's own in London in 92, but it was 93 when it really got rolling and entered the general lexicon.

Doesn't answer the OP's question of course, but sat here listening to Kool from the night of Dec 4th 1992 ain't half making this boy grin!

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Postby spackhandychoptubes » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:52 pm

It's Lenny de ice we are i e - it's not scientifically proven, but it is a fact.

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby ian saunders » Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:03 pm

I think that Jungle (as in music) only came about when the word "Jungle" was used to describe it. It's when the term came in is what's important, not the actual music. Everything before the term "jungle" can be classed as an influence, rather than being that music.

So what was the first record that was described as being "jungle"?

If people in 1990-91 heard We R IE and said "that's a jungle tune" then it's jungle. Depends what they called it at the time.

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby deebom » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:17 am

How about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNgBcUIgTbE

All of the E label tunes were early jungle too.

Or possibly this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOVEtZbf2I

Or even this? It was floating around on white label in 91.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v84mJACU ... re=related

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby mulder » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:00 pm

4/4 kicks, stabs, choppage, ragga, none of these make a blind bit of difference. It's all about a) using breaks and b) having heavy bass. That's all there is to it. Jungle and DnB are in fact no different, they are one in the same. I'd say that up until 1994/5 Hardcore and Jungle were not that different. In 1992, some people were calling hardcore 'drum and bass'
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