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Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:28 pm
by bandwidth
Thought it might be an interesting topic to discuss which sequencers the oldskool pioneers used on some of their all time classic tunes..!

Here's a couple to start the ball rolling....

Liam Howlett used a Roland W30 workstation to write alot of the early Prodigy stuff (I think he uses cubase these days?),

Orbital used an Alesis MMT8 to write Chime (I think they also used it for their live performances),

Anybody know what DJ Seduction, SL2 or Rhythm Section used? or how about Joey Beltram, Goldie or 2 Bad Mice?

Would be really interesting to find out what those guys used to arrange their music!!

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:28 pm
by blade187
Urban Shakedown used Octamed on an Amiga 500 for the track Some Justice as I recall.

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:39 pm
by squatski
pro24
notation.
for atari

jamie posted this pic of the cover of this amiga mag some time ago, can't remember which mag, but i looked it up straight after, i thought it was about altern8 using their miggy to make their tunes but in the interview they mentioned they used the atari ST in their studio.

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:49 pm
by tha liquid
blade187 wrote:Urban Shakedown used Octamed on an Amiga 500 for the track Some Justice as I recall.
Yup, thats true. I have the original .MOD file of Some Justice. Amazing what can be produced with only 4 channels.

:-)

Peace...

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:58 pm
by squatski
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Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:05 pm
by bandwidth
blade187 wrote:Urban Shakedown used Octamed on an Amiga 500 for the track Some Justice as I recall.
I didn't realise the Amagia was used for dance music so its interesting to find that out..!! That Urban Shakedown tune is a classic oldskool anthem!!!!

Just been looking at Octamed on Wikipedia, did you know about the Windows version?
http://www.medsoundstudio.com/
Squatski wrote:pro24
notation.
for atari

jamie posted this pic of the cover of this amiga mag some time ago, can't remember which mag, but i looked it up straight after, i thought it was about altern8 using their miggy to make their tunes but in the interview they mentioned they used the atari ST in their studio.
I had an Atari 1040ste back in '94 it came with Steinberg Pro24 which was quite a good little program, I also had a copy of C-Lab Notator but could'nt get on with it so ended up getting Cubase (glad I did really, easily the best sequencer I have ever used!!) :D

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:21 pm
by Beagle
Tha Liquid(tm) wrote:
blade187 wrote:Urban Shakedown used Octamed on an Amiga 500 for the track Some Justice as I recall.
Yup, thats true. I have the original .MOD file of Some Justice. Amazing what can be produced with only 4 channels.

:-)

Peace...
ha! How did you get that? I'd love to see some screen grabs!

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:45 pm
by tha liquid
Beagle wrote:
Tha Liquid(tm) wrote:
blade187 wrote:Urban Shakedown used Octamed on an Amiga 500 for the track Some Justice as I recall.
Yup, thats true. I have the original .MOD file of Some Justice. Amazing what can be produced with only 4 channels.

:-)

Peace...
ha! How did you get that? I'd love to see some screen grabs!
Screen grabs won't show much except a tracker screen, but i'll upload a link to the .MOD tomorrow evening if you want it?

:-)

Peace...

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:36 pm
by AlexWise
Urban Shakedown mostly used two Amiga's, having to sync the two by pressing play on both machines at the same time. :lol:

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:40 pm
by renegadegenius
Tha Liquid(tm) wrote:
Screen grabs won't show much except a tracker screen, but i'll upload a link to the .MOD tomorrow evening if you want it?

:-)

Peace...
I wouldn't mind that - it'll load nicely into renoise :)

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:48 pm
by J3D
DJ Red Alert & Pepsi 'Mike slammer'
Amiga 600HD with octaMED

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Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:35 pm
by Nokka
Tha Liquid(tm) wrote:
blade187 wrote:Urban Shakedown used Octamed on an Amiga 500 for the track Some Justice as I recall.
Yup, thats true. I have the original .MOD file of Some Justice. Amazing what can be produced with only 4 channels.

:-)

Peace...

wow thats mad...just 4 channels?? crazy

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:38 pm
by AlexWise
As I posted above, their setup was two Amiga's, giving them 8 tracks.
I know Do It Now was done on 8 tracks, can't be 100% sure if Some Justice was, but someone on discogs claims it was done with 8...

"Some Justice was actually written on two Amigas. To synchronise them they had a pattern of clicks on each Amiga which looped before the tracks started. They basically kept starting the tracks until the clicks were in sync. Thats how they got 8 track audio before the Amiga 1200 came out and without using programs such as OctaMED which further degraded the 8-bit sound quality when using more than the Amigas 4 hardware sound channels."

http://www.discogs.com/release/29756

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:06 pm
by renegadegenius
AlexWise wrote:As I posted above, their setup was two Amiga's, giving them 8 tracks.
I know Do It Now was done on 8 tracks, can't be 100% sure if Some Justice was, but someone on discogs claims it was done with 8...

"Some Justice was actually written on two Amigas. To synchronise them they had a pattern of clicks on each Amiga which looped before the tracks started. They basically kept starting the tracks until the clicks were in sync. Thats how they got 8 track audio before the Amiga 1200 came out and without using programs such as OctaMED which further degraded the 8-bit sound quality when using more than the Amigas 4 hardware sound channels."

http://www.discogs.com/release/29756
The 8 tracks via 2 amigas was due to how the amiga did sound - 2 channels on the left, 2 on the right, so for them to get say the drums coming out of both left and right, they had to put the same drums on a left and right channel (using up 2 tracks). so the 8 tracks were really 4 mono tracks (or maybe a bit of panning to give slight stereo placement).
Also heard they used a couple of effect machines in there (as vsts weren't arround back then :) )

Re: Which sequencers did the oldskool pioneers use?

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:18 pm
by bandwidth
Anybody know where that bassline in Some Justice came from? was it a synth or sampled?