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Guess the RPM!

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:08 pm
by dj jedi
I just picked up this obscure record from Discogs, no audio clips so it was a gamble:

http://www.discogs.com/Ash-A-Tack-Mothe ... ter/406902

Now it's arrived, I honestly have no idea what speed it is supposed to be played at. It sounds stupid at both! Here's an MP3 clip of both sides, played at 33 and then 45 RPM at 0% pitch.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/vo9nbk

I can't work it out, see what you think! It's definitely not a '93 breakbeat hardcore record, that much I can tell! :lol:

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:28 pm
by Thumpson
45 surely? At least the other side, many tunes from this era were around the same tempo

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:00 pm
by Ric
Haha, it's hard to tell, although I think that first track sounds better on 33.
Looking at his other work suggests it must be a 45 though and it says he worked at Camden Tunes, Lucky Spin and Blackmarket.

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:06 pm
by lien
33 on +16?

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:46 pm
by rage
33 defo, the kicks and hats are way too pitched at 45.

What a weird 12, I like it though!

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:20 am
by renegadegenius
I'd say 33 as well.
Bit of an odd record though - as you said on FB, the vocals sound too slow on 33, but the rest of the track sounds better on 33.

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:25 am
by dreamweave
33, doesn't sound like a 93 tune at all, good find though.

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:13 am
by dj_gyr8
Hi,

It is 33rpm, all the others on the label are 33rpm.

Agreed, sounds bit naff, but defo can't be played at 45...

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:21 pm
by jj
Gachet & Randall play Mother 2 Lousey at 45 on tapes I've got from March 1993

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:17 pm
by digital delight
Defo 33 I would say

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:40 am
by dj_gyr8
Hi,

Yes, it was played out by jocks in 93, and always at 45, but doesn't mean that was the correct RPM

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:52 am
by dj jedi
I can only guess that he sampled slower drum loops and sped them up, but unlike most breakbeats that sounds good pitched up, the house loops he used sound terrible. I think it must be 45 purely because of the vocal samples, but it sounds terrible.

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:24 pm
by nebkins
The others on the label are just as bad

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Roll-Call/release/387355 is unlistenable

and http://www.discogs.com/Justice-For-All- ... ter/387599 is pointless

Would like to hear clips of this http://www.discogs.com/Cyanide-11-DJ-Sk ... ase/430335 assuming there is no Ash-A-Tack involvement!

Re: Guess the RPM!

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:56 pm
by Ric
nebkins wrote:The others on the label are just as bad

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Roll-Call/release/387355 is unlistenable

and http://www.discogs.com/Justice-For-All- ... ter/387599 is pointless

Would like to hear clips of this http://www.discogs.com/Cyanide-11-DJ-Sk ... ase/430335 assuming there is no Ash-A-Tack involvement!
Jesus they are dog shit. The production quality on the Roll Call EP...erm.