First "Jungle" tune debate

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby deebom » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:29 pm

I do know that if you refer to 'Drum & Bass' as Jungle, a lot of D&B heads get all irate and exclaim "IT'S NOT JUNGLE. IT'S DRUM & BASS!"
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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby aize » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:22 am

For me there's clearly a difference between jungle and drum and bass. Drum and bass is stripped down jungle with much more simplistic drum loops (read boring). Jungle has a much more broken feel to it, with clearly different sections to the tune. That said though, i'm sure plenty of people can find examples where this isn't the case. The most important part for me though, is the drums:
Several different loops, fills, snare rolls, gunshots etc. = Jungle
The same simple loop throughout = Drum and bass

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby ian saunders » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:14 pm

Jungle for me is more roughly produced, more sample based in terms of lots of vocal samples, reggae samples, gunshots, rewinds etc etc

DnB is more computerfied lol

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby Traffic Cone » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:42 pm

drum & bass and jungle were maybe the same thing in the mid 90s - d&b being the more respectable term maybe...but that was 15+ years ago. jungle has become a distinct style of it's own. obviously some stuff crosses into both, with the styles being of the same roots...but whilst there are some new jungle tunes that still have many d&b elements, i don't think people like Soundmurderer or the like were really ever d&b. plus jungle's had a scene separate from d&b for years too - such as in the us/canada, and europe...with crossover into breakcore more than d&b. (although i think dubstep's killed a lot of that!)

tbh though, style names are just defined by consensus really...most people now talk about them as separate things, so that makes them so. it's not set in stone after all. and it can change.

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby Restless » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:58 pm

Nah, Jungle and Drum & Bass are two different genres under the same umbrella. Always have been.

Main Room Drum & Bass is so wank these days. Some of the Liquid stuff is amazing (as per), but the Rave stuff is horrid.

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby Traffic Cone » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:02 pm

i dont think its just complicated drum loops. plenty of complex modern d&b, specially at the harder or techier end. but they're all tightly quantised using modern drums ...whereas jungle's more based around old breakbeats and often a bit more loose / funky. thats what i'd say the difference is.

would love to hear some new jungle that wasn't so ragga heavy...i do still love that but jungle that uses other sounds is great, and there isn't enough!

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby Restless » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:22 pm

Yep.

Too much Ragga-based Jungle is just cliched to fcuk.

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Re: First "Jungle" tune debate

Postby dj_gyr8 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:56 pm

Hi,

I really cannot understand how anyone can think JUNGLE and DRUM & BASS are the same.

For starters, I really like Jungle, but I hate Drum & Bass...


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