mulder wrote:...Jungle and DnB are in fact no different, they are one in the same...
I would not say that at all.
Consider - Can anybody agree on the difference between DnB and Jungle? No, they can't clearly define the two and completely agree with each other at the same time. Everybody has their own take on it. Plus, the name Drum and Bass was adopted partly on purpose because 'Jungle' had become a dirty word.
Is that Jungle or DnB? It sounds very techy, so some would call it DnB, but then it's got a ragga vocal so some would say it's Jungle. Another side to it is that it's influenced by Dubstep, a genre influenced by Jungle / DnB in the first place, so some would just call it 'Drumstep'.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA4Z4epkUqU
Is that DnB or Jungle? All the sounds are 'DnB', but actually the bass is the same type as that in Renegade Terrorist - massive jungle tune, just with the filter being manipulated and the drums are clearly breaks chopped up.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ClhDKelos
Jungle or DnB? It's got all the ragga vocals and sub bass that scream jungle at you, but then it's got those 2 step programmed beats which is one of the things you seem to be saying would make it DnB.
I don't think that Jungle / DnB ever really 'lost their hardcore' either, especially when you consider the reece bass is a techno sound and is one of the most used jungle / dnb basses out there.