An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by silky » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:20 pm

Well........

I have to share my excitement with you Ron. I have been spending an awful lot of time trying to learn my Korg 01 R/W reading the manual getting a good feel for the instrument.

Here is a result of a patch I created this evening after putting the techniques I have learnt into the stab sound. I hope you enjoy. :wink:

https://soundcloud.com/silky1122/worldwide-epidemic-the-waveshaper-teaser-clip

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by RonWellsJS » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:56 pm

Sounds like you're getting the hang of waveshaping then mate... no other synth (I've heard) makes sounds like that.

Have you downloaded the free PG8X Roland JX8-P VST emulation? That'll do some tek bass and pads for you.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by lien » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:27 pm

Elusive9T2 wrote:That sinking feeling you get when you heard the full Spaceman record from the mid 90's

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XCbAEkfXSDE
I worked at the advertising agency that did that advert for many years ;) Jas Mann did NOT want his speeded vocal used, then some one pointed out how much money he would make.......

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by RonWellsJS » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:30 pm

lien wrote:
Elusive9T2 wrote:That sinking feeling you get when you heard the full Spaceman record from the mid 90's

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XCbAEkfXSDE
I worked at the advertising agency that did that advert for many years ;) Jas Mann did NOT want his speeded vocal used, then some one pointed out how much money he would make.......
I'm sure he's still dining out on it. Awful track but iconic nonetheless.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by lien » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:38 pm

RonWellsJS wrote:I'm sure he's still dining out on it....
Doubt it, one of payments for music used in adverts plus it was Arthur Baker (Its his mix used in the old advert) twisted his arm for it to be used. But it is safe to assume he made a few squid.

I also know that Levis rejected the "Flat Eric" adverts 1st time around, they had to re-pitch before they brought in to it.... going slightly off topic... Sorry Ron! ;)

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by RonWellsJS » Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:19 pm

lien wrote:
RonWellsJS wrote:I'm sure he's still dining out on it....
Doubt it, one of payments for music used in adverts plus it was Arthur Baker (Its his mix used in the old advert) twisted his arm for it to be used. But it is safe to assume he made a few squid.

I also know that Levis rejected the "Flat Eric" adverts 1st time around, they had to re-pitch before they brought in to it.... going slightly off topic... Sorry Ron! ;)
That's great info, no worries.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by silky » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:43 am

RonWellsJS wrote:Sounds like you're getting the hang of waveshaping then mate... no other synth (I've heard) makes sounds like that.

Have you downloaded the free PG8X Roland JX8-P VST emulation? That'll do some tek bass and pads for you.

;-)
As soon as I tweaked that last dial and heard that sound I just stopped sat down and smiled to myself.

I have downloaded the PG8X, great VST and was surprised how good the Chours works on it, very close to that classic Roland Chours sound.

I can get a good bass sound out of it especially a Square Wave but struggling to tweak it for Pads, Slow Attack and Long Release etc, any tips you can offer would be awesome. I'm amazed how good it sounds to be honest.

It can load sysex so ill grab the JP-8X factory ones and see how they are programmed, might be a good starting point for me to see how the patches are made.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by dj jedi » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:14 am

Sorry Ron this may already have been asked, but did you do this track with Top Buzz?


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Post by RonWellsJS » Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:59 pm

dj jedi wrote:Sorry Ron this may already have been asked, but did you do this track with Top Buzz?
Hmmm... it doesn't sound like it was done at Sound Entity.

I would say most likely not. I did quite a few with them but that one doesn't ring a bell.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by hektikal » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:01 pm

Here it is, the famous chat as it seems ;)

Big up to all :)

Not been here for a too long time..

Hope everyone is ok :D

Cheers,

Joe.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by RonWellsJS » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:17 am

LOL...

... see what you started.

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hektikal wrote:Here it is, the famous chat as it seems ;)

Big up to all :)

Not been here for a too long time..

Hope everyone is ok :D

Cheers,

Joe.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by dial1 » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:53 pm

Did you ever want to branch into the ambient/idm/intelligent techno scene? Autechre, Black Dog, Bedouin Ascent etc.

What do you think of producers like Lee Gamble, ASC, Shapednoise, Logos, Mumdance Imaginary Forces? What's been impressing you in electronic music these days? What are your views on modern techno? Are you liking the resurgence of analogue, modulars and more groovier, rawer sounds?

Following on from that, why do you think drum and bass hasn't had much longevity, whereas genres like techno and ambient have? A lot of darkcore was very techno influenced as well as the better end of the jazz jungle stuff. It could have been a credible thing underground, like modern techno, but I can't really think of any modern dnb djs I'd love to see. Have a raft of techno gigs planned for the next few months.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by RonWellsJS » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:01 am

@dial1

Yeh, love ambient music, not released much but have plenty in my music library projects.

I don't know any of the artists you mention, I haven't heard any new electronic music for years (probably a decade)

Drum and bass has become too narrow a genre, it all sounds the same to me, that's why it struggles, plus there is little in the way of music in it.

Real musical drum and bass, for me, was a magical sound that sadly lasted about 12 months, a shame indeed. Some of the tracks that have been dubbed Jazz DnB are hysterically wide of the mark in terms of the compositional skills required to earn the coveted badge of Jazz... '3 blind mice' with a sax / horn sample is never Jazz.

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by dial1 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:32 am

RonWellsJS wrote:@dial1

Yeh, love ambient music, not released much but have plenty in my music library projects.

I don't know any of the artists you mention, I haven't heard any new electronic music for years (probably a decade)

Drum and bass has become too narrow a genre, it all sounds the same to me, that's why it struggles, plus there is little in the way of music in it.

Real musical drum and bass, for me, was a magical sound that sadly lasted about 12 months, a shame indeed. Some of the tracks that have been dubbed Jazz DnB are hysterically wide of the mark in terms of the compositional skills required to earn the coveted badge of Jazz... '3 blind mice' with a sax / horn sample is never Jazz.

;-)
Agree with nearly all of that. off out now to get some stuff sorted out but I'll quickly link you to some cuts I've been enjoying as of late

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7DpLwKcSto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw5_PLDsbzg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7emTH_C5I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP_ZQup362s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZffDVUh7eA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E23d-nMXwck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFJJaY85ueA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9u9esEKFtw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV23D-s ... e=youtu.be

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Re: An answer i had from Jack Smooth..

Post by jamie » Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:55 pm

Some interesting posts here and lots of great info with an insight into what went on back in the day!

Another question please Ron if I may - when other producers/engineers were using the studio, did you all share presets?

Or did you all guard your own to keep your own tweaks on presets? Did you ever let others have sole use of your studio?

You can always tell that Sound Entity sound, as to me it does and always has sounded amazingly good.

Cheers!

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